Sep 13, 2007, 09:35 PM // 21:35
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Eyeless of the North - Dungeon Blind-Fest
It has got beyond a joke now....
As if I didn't have enough of it with those Krait Arcanoss bastards on the outside.... I come across blinding golems in Oola's joint (who thankfully are C-Space fodder anyway) and countless numbers of Skeletal Wizards (Shards of Orr in particular) who like nothing better than to spam blindness constantly.
WTF were A-Net thinking?
There is nothing more annoying than being blinded constantly... despite having 3 monks in the party AND one of the Paragons on Condition-removal duty.
Blind on, blind off, blind on, blind off, blind on, blind off, blind on.... and it stays on....
And what the sweet hell am I, as an Assassin, supposed to do? Condition removal is completely worthless as every other bastard in the Asura regions is set on blinding me constantly!
About the only option I see available to me is going back to my ridiculous old Illusionary Daggers build.... which isn't ideal, and likely to get me killed very quickly (not to mention the enchant removal around)...
Sight Beyond Sight would be perfect (involving secondary Rit) if it wasn't linked to Spawning Power and taking up an essential slot in the build.... so no go there.
Avatar of Melandru? Again... Mysticism.
And the key point is:
THIS ISN'T FUN!
I almost feel like I'm just wasting my time trying to fill in the damned Dungeon Manual because most of the damned things are filled with blind-spammers, and I can't do a single sodding thing when I can't see.
And this is just one issue I have among many regarding some of the cheat-tard creatures in Eye of the North..... but then everybody else on these boards seems to think -60% death penalty and 48 hours per dungeon is fun. Bunch of "challenge"-tards. ¬_¬
*Grumbles*
A-Net...
Plot-based RPG = GOOD.
Infuriating dungeon-crawl = BAD.
Take a freakin hint.
[Addendum :~ Anyone who claims I just shouldn't do it is going to be ignored on the basis of their mental retardation. "IT" happens to be pretty much all the new content IN GW:EN, and I intend to get my money's worth somehow.]
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:39 PM // 21:39
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#2
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Québec
Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo]
Profession: E/
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Well, I don't reach 60dp in GWEN.. but I do agree that the constant blind is a ***** ! Seriously I am now carrying antidote signet on my warrior just to keep blind off.. heh during a fight I spend more time un-blinding myself than anything else.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:42 PM // 21:42
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#3
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Oh... don't you?
Use consumables before you get there or something?
The very notion that we should have to use consumables is abhorrant.... A complete travesty.
In any case, I'm sure it wouldn't be an issue if I were playing a spellcaster.... but I'm not. I'm a melee character, and for the record the AI is thick as sh!t.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47
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#4
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Québec
Guild: Legacy of Angels [Halo]
Profession: E/
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I haven't used any consumables at all..
Anyway, its much easier to hero/hench with a warrior.. you tank then unflag and your team comes up and nukes all the foes that are busy with you.
Of course, you are a sin so this technique doesn't really work.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50
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#5
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Academy Page
Join Date: Feb 2007
Guild: [GN]
Profession: E/
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I presume from your post you're playing an assassin, maybe you should look at Assassin's Remedy.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:50 PM // 21:50
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#6
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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No...
It doesn't.
I deal damage. I assassinate.... when I can see. When I can't see, I pop onto someone's back and flail like a moron until my enchantments wear off and I die..... or I try to run away and get smashed to the ground and killed because my herohench are too busy running around in circles like headless chickens.
It is times like these that makes me wish my Assassin could be a smiter monk just for a little while..... -_-;
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:51 PM // 21:51
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#7
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: between the mackems and the magpies
Guild: Freedom From Slavery
Profession: Rt/Me
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there is also the option of using that norn spell thing - after doing the main quests to gain northern allies you can talk to the norn fella at the very southern tip of drakkar lake and take quests to gain the bear/raven/wolf elite spells.
Then use the one that stops you and your colleagues being blinded - yes I know it only lasts a few seconds but still....
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54
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#8
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I dunt even get "Retired"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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If you're dying that often, you might think, hey, these skills in my build aren't essential. Why aren't they essential? Because you can't use them WHEN YOU'RE DEAD.
I hero/hench dungeons, and I'm a ranger, so blind affects me just as much.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:54 PM // 21:54
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#9
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by B B
I presume from your post you're playing an assassin, maybe you should look at Assassin's Remedy.
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Blind off, blind on.
I'd be blinded. I'd use Golden Phoenix Strike. It would miss and blindness would vanish, but it would be back on again before it recharged. Rinse and repeat.
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Originally Posted by bianca periwinkle
there is also the option of using that norn spell thing - after doing the main quests to gain northern allies you can talk to the norn fella at the very southern tip of drakkar lake and take quests to gain the bear/raven/wolf elite spells.
Then use the one that stops you and your colleagues being blinded - yes I know it only lasts a few seconds but still....
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Admittedly I hadn't considered the animal totems.... but that isn't the point. Those non-class-specific PvE specific skills sicken me.... not least the ones that replace my entire skill-bar. It is like A-Net is trying to do away with classes and builds altogether and just hand us some glowy sticks and say "use these like everyone else"..... -_-;
Those totems are the LAST RESORT.
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Originally Posted by unienaule
If you're dying that often, you might think, hey, these skills in my build aren't essential. Why aren't they essential? Because you can't use them WHEN YOU'RE DEAD.
I hero/hench dungeons, and I'm a ranger, so blind affects me just as much.
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Stupidest advice I've ever heard.
If you're so eager to use no skills because they don't work when dead then go do that. I'll just keep persisting and complaining about it.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:56 PM // 21:56
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#10
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Banned
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Northern California
Guild: HoTR
Profession: N/Me
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I kind of stumbled across this with some guildies. When you are going into those blindfest dungeons, like the Fendi Nin one, as a melee-based character, set as half tank, half signet smiter. Then pull the enemies and wall them, and when they are balled up, unleash the smites (any smite signet, symbol of wrath, etc)
pretty unconventional but you are doing a whole lot more good than flailing away while blinded
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Mexico
Guild: La Legion del Dragon [LD]
Profession: E/
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you could try a rit with [skill]sight beyond sight[/skill]
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58
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#12
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VitisVinifera
I kind of stumbled across this with some guildies. When you are going into those blindfest dungeons, like the Fendi Nin one, as a melee-based character, set as half tank, half signet smiter. Then pull the enemies and wall them, and when they are balled up, unleash the smites (any smite signet, symbol of wrath, etc)
pretty unconventional but you are doing a whole lot more good than flailing away while blinded
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And what about when I come across the boss and find myself inadequate to the task of obliterating it due to the weird build?
-_-;
For the record... "Half tank" isn't an option for an Assassin.
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Sep 13, 2007, 09:58 PM // 21:58
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#13
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I dunt even get "Retired"
Join Date: Aug 2005
Guild: Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]
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Wow, way to miss my point. My point is, re-think your entire build if it's not working out. Start with some entirely different build concept. If you can't use your skills, it doesn't matter how awesome your combo is, it's going to do exactly nothing.
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:00 PM // 22:00
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#14
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Ascalonian Squire
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I dont seem to worry about blind where if you have a good healer you can easyly survive to its offthen kill > >
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:01 PM // 22:01
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#15
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2006
Guild: The Illuminati
Profession: Mo/
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Try bringing someone with Spotless Soul, that should help a lot me thinks.
Other than that, you can bring other people with you who do other kinds of damage, which makes dungeons a lot easier.
You as sin should just get used to the blindness, or try some non melee type of build. Maybe you should buy a blindfold, would make it a bit less painfull?
Good luck.
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:02 PM // 22:02
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#16
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Central PA, USA
Guild: Axis of Valor [AXIS]
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hmm
plague touch?
learn how to interrupt?
or if you have horrible timing and can't interrupt a turkey in the oven, bring a.. gasp.. mesmer hero to help interrupt and maybe even have some condition removal on it, just in case?
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:04 PM // 22:04
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#17
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Banned
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Drazach Thicket
Guild: Temple of Zhen Xianren [Sifu]
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EinherjarMx
you could try a rit with [skill]sight beyond sight[/skill]
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Way to not read the first post... ¬_¬
Sight Beyond Sight is Spawning Power based and is cast ON SELF. Only usable for more than a few seconds for Primary rits BY Primary rits, who couldn't care less if they're blinded or not anyway.
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Originally Posted by unienaule
Wow, way to miss my point. My point is, re-think your entire build if it's not working out. Start with some entirely different build concept. If you can't use your skills, it doesn't matter how awesome your combo is, it's going to do exactly nothing.
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Assassin = Melee Character.
Melee Character = Useless when blind.
It doesn't matter what freakin attack skills (practically the key feature of any Assassin's build) I put on that bar..... the result will still be the same.
Now quit being a nuisance. If you have something productive to say then say it, as I'm getting exactly NOTHING helpful from you so far.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arathi
I dont seem to worry about blind where if you have a good healer you can easyly survive to its offthen kill > >
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Multiple wipes of a party with three monks, two paragons and an earth elementalist strongly implies otherwise. Admittedly it took them a bloody long time to achieve wipe-out before the death penalty started to build up....
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:05 PM // 22:05
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#18
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Krytan Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida
Guild: Wayward Wanderers
Profession: W/E
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Too bad Avatars are tuned to Mysticism.. Melandru's Avatar would be perfect for that sort of thing.. *sigh*
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:08 PM // 22:08
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#19
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Did I hear 7 heroes?
Join Date: May 2005
Guild: Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SotiCoto
And what about when I come across the boss and find myself inadequate to the task of obliterating it due to the weird build?
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There are 7 other members of your party, if you're not completely valuable for one fight big deal. I've monked before and used maybe one or two skills to keep the party up for certain mobs, but other times where I need to exhuast every skill. Better to be useful the majority of the time than useless.
If the enemy is spending all of their time blinding you, they probably aren't hurting the rest of your party. Take one for the team.
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Sep 13, 2007, 10:09 PM // 22:09
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#20
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The Greatest
Join Date: Feb 2006
Profession: W/
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I've done both this and Shards of Orr with heroes/henchies as a warrior. Sight beyond sight was more then helpful.
You can always try running a critical barrage with a longbow.
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